Feisty Repartee

Eh....I'm sure you know what I'm going to say here.

Healthy weight is ultimately most attractive to the men that I've known.

Curves are GOOD in the right places. I think that essentially, it all filters down to being in proportion.

Posted by: sadie at May 18, 2005 07:30 PM

Audrey is in a class by herself. She had a dancer's body, athletic and curvy even though she was tiny.

Posted by: caltechgirl at May 18, 2005 07:56 PM

Well, for what it is worth...yeah a "youthful looking gal is nice to look at...but short of morbidly obese, it really is the person inside that counts. And if she (or even he) has a healthy self image, observes good grooming, and wears clothing that complements them...rather than trying to mimic the current fashion trends, speaks well, has a sense of humor, heck what more could a person want?

As for me I like em a tad less then Rubinesque...but the Kate Moss, or even Ann Coulter, are far too thin. Ms Jolie is a true beauty(on the outside only!), and Audrey Hepburn was a classical one as well. However, Sophia Loren has class and sex appeal well into her 60's, and was never "tiny". And finally, there was Kate Hepburn, who didn't fit anyone's mold...but had a beauty all her own.

Posted by: Guy S at May 18, 2005 10:55 PM

I read something this morning that referred to Hollywood's "Lollypop" look - an incredibly apt description of the way celebrity gals try to look. This is the quote:

The gaunt look remains stubbornly popular in Hollywood, where carb avoidance could be an Olympic sport. But since when does "sexy" mean jutting clavicles, noggins better suited to bobbing on a dashboard and arms so twig-like birds could build nests out of them? We're not expecting the return of the Marilyn Monroe hourglass, but lollipop is not a shape to aspire to.

I agree with that. Women are soft, delectable creatures that should not be wandering around like bags of bones. In Hollywood I'd pick Angelina Jolie, Thora Birch and Christina Ricci as some of the most beautiful women.

Posted by: tincanman at May 19, 2005 12:14 AM

Not being your typical man, I must say that I like curves in all the right places, and like some filling under the skin.
Let me put it this way, I get sick looking at what passes for models today, just as I'm not turned on by Angelina or Pamela.
I like women who are porportioned right, and have lots of style.

Posted by: Joe Wiess at May 19, 2005 02:25 AM

I prefer curves! Skinny can still be good looking, but for the most part, I think skinny is nasty.

Proportion is what is attractive... I've seen a couple of very large women who have been proportioned properly. I don't usually chase after that, but it still can look sexy.

Jolie is definitely a hottie, but that's only to look at. Something about her turns me off. Oh, I'm not saying that should she ever decide that she would like to chase after me, that I would refuse... ;)

Posted by: That 1 Guy at May 19, 2005 06:57 AM

... yeah, what That 1 Guy said.... totally.. curves are sexy... but it is all about proportion.. and Jolie, although beautiful, definitely puts off some freaky vibes...

Posted by: Eric at May 19, 2005 07:31 AM

Hi Feisty,
This is a sensitive subject. The short answer is a woman looks better with those few exta pounds strategically distributed. Men like curvey and squeezable. Oh yeah!
My better half is on a mission to attain the doctor's "Ideal weight." I believe she has succeeded. She has a teenagers body. When I was 17 this was the bomb. Now?........
The real bottom line is....if you feel sexy about your own body, your lover will too. This is the real secrete!
BTW, I can't read comments because of black on blue text!

Posted by: at May 19, 2005 07:45 AM

This one isn't even close: CURVES. And not the Silicon-filled one's either!

You may remember that I met (or saw) the 90's supermodel Helena Christensen at a gallery opening a few weeks back. My first reaction (well, ok, my second, since my first was "eh, she looks pretty average--I wouldn't know she was a model if it weren't for her scuzzy-looking model boyfriend.")
...
my second reaction was, "Have a sandwich!" and not "boy, would I like to..."

There's my two cents!

Posted by: WillyShake at May 19, 2005 08:14 AM

"(albeit it is certainly NOT something that takes up a great deal of my time or consciousness)"

Like we're gonna believe that line.

Posted by: phin at May 19, 2005 10:55 AM

...What I think those three women have in common are a smoldering sensual appeal with the confidence in their curves to back them up.

That is the key line there. I can't stand the twig types. They probably look like a pile of kindling in bed in the morning. Kathy's body is beautiful, and I wish she'd have more confidence in her appearance - even though I doubt that would ever match the confidence she has in her mind. A woman with confidence walking down the street will get my attention - regardless of body type. If when I look at her face and see a smile, more so the attraction. If when I look in her eyes and see something going on behind them, perhaps something mysterious and playful, then I'm in danger and had better remember that Kathy's formidable mind has devised tortures I do not want to experience should I stray. Posted by: MRN aka "The Husband" at May 19, 2005 03:12 PM

I'd take a Marilyn Monroe over a Moss or Paltrow any day...

Posted by: Evilwhiteguy at May 19, 2005 08:24 PM

I found this discussion over at Phin's and I'll repeat what I said over there: I like my women built for comfort, not for speed. As another illustration: A few years ago, GQ magazine photographed some model (don't remember who) recreating some classic pin-up poses, including Marilyn Monroe's classic calendar shot. I looked at the recreation, and I realized what was wrong with it: The girl was tooooo skinny. For another example, take a look at any recent picture of Christy Brinkley: She's not as svelte as she used to be, but man oh Maniscewitz does she look better!

Posted by: Victor at May 20, 2005 11:01 AM

As I have grown older I appreciate curves a bit more. It begs the question, is it because most women that would be interested in a man my age have added curves or is it a natural change? Whatever the answer, I don't care.

I also think that thin looks much better on young women. Very few women seem to be able to keep that look while still looking healthy as they age. I like healthy, young or not so young.

Posted by: Dishonorable Schoolboy at May 20, 2005 12:46 PM

I know just what you mean...I saw a picture of Lindsey Lohan & Nicole Richie together and they look like skeletons! What ever happened to Lohan's fun figure? It's really getting scary...

Posted by: ali at May 21, 2005 03:26 PM

Physically fit is attractive to me. Not skinny. Not overweight. A woman who is toned. I don't find fat sexy, and it is a turnoff to me to put my arm around a woman and feel a roll. Isn't that a turnoff to a woman also?

The same is true for men (not that I'm attracted to them sexually). Physically fit people are attractive because they have this healthy vitality about them.

Confidence also adds to this vitality. I don't care how beautiful she (or handsome he) is... a person who lacks confidence, who walks around looking down at the ground, who won't make eye contact, is just not attractive. They're subconsciously projecting their feelings of inadequacy, and I think the message received is "I am not worth befriending." How can that be attractive?

Finally, grooming is important. Anyone who consistently doesn't take the time to groom themselves is basically showing a lack of self-respect. I'm not talking hairstyling and makeup, I'm talking about clean hair, clean skin, clean teeth, and clean clothes.

I used to work with a guy who was really skinny, who wore the cheapest K-Mart clothes (this guy made in the six figures), whose fingernails were extended at least a half-inch past his fingertips, and who would re-use his Saran Wrap, carefully folding it and putting it in his shirt pocket. He almost always had greasy, dirty, unkempt hair (when it was clean it was flying all over the place because he didn't use conditioner) with dandruff, and an oily sheen to his face. Thank God he brushed his teeth. He was a really nice person but didn't understand why he couldn't get dates, and no amount of subtle hints seemed to make a difference. After I knew him for several years and heard him whine about it one too many times, I was blunt with him. He didn't change, though. I think his appearance was a self-defense mechanism... if he cleaned himself up then girls might not like him for who he was instead of being able to blame it on his looks.

I feel it is also important to be involved in physical activities (cycling, racket sports, etc.) with your S.O. If you like a person but wish they were in better shape, are YOU in better shape? Why don't you both help each other get in better shape? You'll live longer, you'll look better, you'll both be more attracted to each other... and the increased fitness levels are beneficial in many areas if you get my drift.

No supermodels. Take care of yourselfs, get to HWP, be physically active. You'll look better, you'll feel better, and you'll feel MUCH better about yourself. That is sexy.

Now... having said all that, I am like most other guys in that we are genetically wired to lust after women with a big rack, a curve to their waist, a nice butt and legs, and symmetrical facial features with large eyes. That's millions of years of evolution, not pop culture. But the women I've actually been involved with and attracted to match what I described earlier in the post.

We men may look at pictures of pinups and supermodels, but we are happiest with women who we are attracted to who we can get along with and whose company we enjoy. Did I mention that liking us and finding us attractive is a great turn-on?

Posted by: jgc at May 21, 2005 03:54 PM

As far as I know, none of my friends think that rail thin is sexy, and it's amazing to us that any women think that we prefer it.

The idea that thin is sexy is a lie put forth from the fashion industry. Not because the fashion designers try to make you believe it, it's just that they wont go out of their way to set you straight.

Why? Because fashion designers want their clothes to look as good on a hanger as they do on the model. They design clothes for hangers and need skinny models to keep them looking good once the clothes are being worn.

If a designer were to dress up full-figured models he wouldn't sew a larger version of what he already has, he'd come up with a whole new outfit designed for the larger, curvier body.

You don't actually need to ask men which body type they find sexier. All you need to do is ask this simple question: Is there a difference between the women in Vogue and Glamour, and the women in Penthouse and Hustler?

Answer: Oh, yeah! The women in men's magazines have curves! Boobs and butts! But so many woman are fooled by the idea that fashion models are the epitome what's beautiful. But there is reason to believe that models are anything other than the fashion industry's opinion of what's beautiful -- and they are interested only in what makes their clothes look beautiful, not the models who are displaying them.

Christina, if you've weight conscious and have held up skinny as a goal and are ready to throw away the scale, then my guess is that you're probably pretty darn good-lookin'! ;)

Posted by: Tuning Spork at May 22, 2005 05:21 PM